Comments on: Another day, another interesting conversation (headache) with a factory. http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/ Your Branch Office in Asia Sat, 12 May 2012 06:52:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Silk Road International Blog » Best of the Year, 2010–Happy Chinese New Year! http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-2502 Silk Road International Blog » Best of the Year, 2010–Happy Chinese New Year! Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:56:53 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-2502 [...] Another Day Another Interesting Conversation [...] [...] Another Day Another Interesting Conversation [...]

]]> By: Peter http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1659 Peter Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:43:53 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1659 Great article, one of the few english blogs that reveals the culture of doing business in China. Look forward to more posts. Keep up the good work! ceo@chinafirstcapital.com Great article, one of the few english blogs that reveals the culture of doing business in China. Look forward to more posts. Keep up the good work!

ceo@chinafirstcapital.com

]]> By: Homer http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1658 Homer Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:18:26 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1658 Wow. I stumbled upon your blog by way of China law blog. This is the only article that I've read and I have to say that I'll be reading a lot more. I moved to China 8 months ago and have dealt with these situations before. Sometimes this country confounds the mind. It really is a different way to do business. We all have to be on our toes. Especially when deception is a commonly played game. Smoke and mirrors. It is what it is. Thanks you for posting some helpful insight. I will defiantly be reading more. Wow. I stumbled upon your blog by way of China law blog. This is the only article that I’ve read and I have to say that I’ll be reading a lot more. I moved to China 8 months ago and have dealt with these situations before. Sometimes this country confounds the mind. It really is a different way to do business. We all have to be on our toes. Especially when deception is a commonly played game. Smoke and mirrors. It is what it is. Thanks you for posting some helpful insight. I will defiantly be reading more.

]]> By: Another Day, Another Interesting Conversation With A China Factory. And How Lawyering Has Its Widgets Too. – http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1657 Another Day, Another Interesting Conversation With A China Factory. And How Lawyering Has Its Widgets Too. – Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:36:54 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1657 [...] Silk Road International Blog is one of my favorite blogs. It is written by David Dayton, an “international procurement and project management” specialist with more than twenty years of Asia experience. What I like so much about his blog is that it so often brings us up close and personal and it just tells it like it is. Though the posts are usually about dealing with Chinese factories, they very often “hit me where I live.” This is especially true of David’s most recent post, “Another day, another interesting conversation (headache) with a factory.“ [...] [...] Silk Road International Blog is one of my favorite blogs. It is written by David Dayton, an “international procurement and project management” specialist with more than twenty years of Asia experience. What I like so much about his blog is that it so often brings us up close and personal and it just tells it like it is. Though the posts are usually about dealing with Chinese factories, they very often “hit me where I live.” This is especially true of David’s most recent post, “Another day, another interesting conversation (headache) with a factory.“ [...]

]]> By: Tama http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 Tama Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:52:56 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1653 Very interesting blog. I haven't been to Hong Kong for 30 years, when five of us from the US were brought in to help train the fledgling visual effects department at Shaw Brother Studio in bluescreen, animation, optical printing and matte painting techniques. The Chinese were wonderful, warm people but the work was frustrating, to say the least. I wish I had then the insight you provide here. It wasn't until the end of the two months that I realized the importance of "face" and that it was why things would be messed up, though everyone swore they understood the process and why everyone said they understood an instruction perfectly, then would go and do completely the opposite. I think Americans are fairly confident and don't mind admitting our mistakes or confessing our ignorance, but the Chinese self-confidence is less and there is tremendous anxiety over being perceived as "less than"--as in less knowledgeable or less capable or less educated. At least that was my observation 30 years ago. Very interesting blog. I haven’t been to Hong Kong for 30 years, when five of us from the US were brought in to help train the fledgling visual effects department at Shaw Brother Studio in bluescreen, animation, optical printing and matte painting techniques. The Chinese were wonderful, warm people but the work was frustrating, to say the least. I wish I had then the insight you provide here. It wasn’t until the end of the two months that I realized the importance of “face” and that it was why things would be messed up, though everyone swore they understood the process and why everyone said they understood an instruction perfectly, then would go and do completely the opposite. I think Americans are fairly confident and don’t mind admitting our mistakes or confessing our ignorance, but the Chinese self-confidence is less and there is tremendous anxiety over being perceived as “less than”–as in less knowledgeable or less capable or less educated. At least that was my observation 30 years ago.

]]> By: Another day, another interesting conversation (headache) with a factory | China Hope Live http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1652 Another day, another interesting conversation (headache) with a factory | China Hope Live Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:13:55 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1652 [...] Doing business, with Chinese factory characteristics: “Every single line in the contract was review with them before they signed it. Every point was agreed to. Dates were confirmed. Qtty’s and time frames agreed to. [...] [...] Doing business, with Chinese factory characteristics: “Every single line in the contract was review with them before they signed it. Every point was agreed to. Dates were confirmed. Qtty’s and time frames agreed to. [...]

]]> By: KINABLOG.dk » Ugens Fem Klik om Kina: Juleaften i fængsel, pissoir, censur med mere http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 KINABLOG.dk » Ugens Fem Klik om Kina: Juleaften i fængsel, pissoir, censur med mere Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:31:30 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1650 [...] • Når det så er sagt, så er det nærmest en forretningskultur, at kinesiske virksomheder forsøger at presse penge af udenlandske samarbejdspartnere, som de også gerne snyder & bedrager, uanset hvad der nu måtte stå i de dersens værdiløse kontrakter, som man blandt andet kan læse i den underholdende “Poorly Made In China“, som jeg også har skrevet om her. Silk Road International er endnu en gang rendt i lignende problemer. De har brugt et år på at forberede en produktion af tøj med en kinesisk partner, der får uger før den skal sættes igang pludselig ikke kan behandle ordren. [...] [...] • Når det så er sagt, så er det nærmest en forretningskultur, at kinesiske virksomheder forsøger at presse penge af udenlandske samarbejdspartnere, som de også gerne snyder & bedrager, uanset hvad der nu måtte stå i de dersens værdiløse kontrakter, som man blandt andet kan læse i den underholdende “Poorly Made In China“, som jeg også har skrevet om her. Silk Road International er endnu en gang rendt i lignende problemer. De har brugt et år på at forberede en produktion af tøj med en kinesisk partner, der får uger før den skal sættes igang pludselig ikke kan behandle ordren. [...]

]]> By: Joel http://silkroadintl.net/blog/2010/01/12/another-day-another-interesting-conversation-headache-with-a-factory/comment-page-1/#comment-1649 Joel Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:21:55 +0000 http://silkroadintl.net/blog/?p=706#comment-1649 Reminds me of the book Poorly Made in China... the author has so many stories of deliberate monkey business like this. Reminds me of the book Poorly Made in China… the author has so many stories of deliberate monkey business like this.

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